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From Music to Real Estate: Sean Frost's Dual Career Journey

• Courtney Twiss • Episode 55

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What if you could transform your career and life with the same passion that fuels your hobbies? Join us for an engaging conversation with Sean McRae, known in the music world as Sean Frost, who shares his journey from being a music producer to becoming a real estate leader in Ottawa. Sean's story is rich with lessons on adaptability and lifelong learning, making it a compelling listen for anyone contemplating a career change. Discover how his early struggles in the music industry and a general contracting business paved the way for his current success in real estate, and how his artistic roots continue to shape his professional pursuits.

Balancing two distinct careers is no easy feat, but Sean McRae pulls it off with aplomb. We explore his ownership of two custom home building companies and delve into the philosophy he employs to maintain a small yet highly effective real estate team. Sean's commitment to treating clients as part of his community and legacy shines through, alongside his hustle-driven approach amid a fluctuating market. Learn how Sean's collaboration with artists and signing major deals, such as one with Columbia Records, intertwine with his real estate ventures, highlighting the vibrant synergy between his dual passions.

Flexibility and family are pillars of Sean's life, and he shares actionable strategies for achieving work-life harmony. From his disciplined morning routine to maximizing productivity across time zones, Sean emphasizes the privilege of flexibility that his real estate career affords him. The episode culminates in his transformation from an independent broker to a key player at eXp Realty, where he's earned Icon Agent status. Sean's national award for community contributions in Canada underscores the supportive environment at eXp Realty, fueling his ongoing commitment to excellence and growth. Don't miss out on the inspiring story of Sean McRae, whose life is a testament to the power of passion and perseverance.

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Speaker 1:

Um, it's funny because I see you standing and I was like reading over my intro with you and I was like man, I feel like I want to stand on this intro. You know, I don't know, obviously you command that attention.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a big sitter. I have too much energy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sound like my husband.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, welcome to episode 55 of the Now Podcast Making Moves in Real Estate. Hey everyone, it's the General here, alongside my co-host, the amazing C-Twist, and today's guest is someone who's turning dreams into reality, mr Sean McRae, aka Sean Frost. Based in Ottawa, canada, sean leads Live Like they Dream Inc and the Sean Frost Real Estate Team, guiding clients to their dream homes and beyond real estate. He's a dedicated dad, a music producer and a proud partner of the professional soccer team Atletico Ottawa, with a passion for creating a positive impact in his community. Let's dive in and welcome to the show, mr Sean Frost.

Speaker 2:

Right on. Thank you guys. Thanks for having me looking forward to to chatting with you guys today.

Speaker 1:

Well, I want to know where the Sean Frost came from.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, right out of the gate. So, um, that actually came from the music side. So I started as a music producer when I was still in high school. Um, and you know, it was just nobody was really using their full real name and that was actually a nickname that was given to me growing up so it just kind of stuck with me and I use that on the music side.

Speaker 2:

So then when I ended up actually getting into the real estate world here in Ottawa, I had been abroad and a few different cities working, but when I was kind of planting things back down in Ottawa and starting the real estate side, nobody knew my last name as McRae, like nobody knew me as Sean McRae. So you know, obviously selling we have to use our legal, you know our government names. And I was like, oh man, like nobody's gonna even know me. So I was able to get through the Sean Frost real estate team so that people would be able to make that association that, oh shoot, like this guy isn't actually named Sean Frost, this is his real name.

Speaker 1:

So like vanilla ice. I know, I mean, I my, my wheels were going like there's so much you could do with frost. I mean you know, are we going to turn this into a marketing ice, ice, baby, I know we're old, we're old, yeah, okay, moving on, moving on. Let's get to real estate. So you were a producer, or our producer, and how did you pivot into real estate?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so great question. I um, it took me a while to get there. Actually I, when I first came back, was kind of transitioning out of the music quote unquote. Growing up a little bit I I had a job like a nine to five type thing that I enjoyed, but I knew that it wasn't like an end a be all, end all. And I started a general contracting company with a buddy of mine whose English was a second language.

Speaker 2:

And I started a general contracting company with a buddy of mine whose English was a second language and I was kind of working the front end, like the sales and running the business, that sense. And then he was doing, of course, the actual construction and I absolutely hated it. I did it for a couple of years, despised it, was going to bed unhappy, dreading the next morning and I just felt that burden, that that weighed on my shoulders of like not letting my buddy down because that was his bread and butter, he needed it to kind of survive and provide for his family, and so that in turn I was like kind of going to a somewhat of a dead end job during the day and then working, you know, moonlighting, and working this general contracting company as well, and I just felt stuck, didn't know anything, didn't know where I wanted to go, was unfulfilled, pretty depressed and, as luck would have it, one of my best friends he was a real estate agent. He was like, sean, you, you got to do this, man, you got to get your license, you'll fly. And I was like, okay, well, I'll give it a shot.

Speaker 2:

I've always been a firm believer in continued education, no matter what form it is, whether it's, like you know, self-taught, online courses, institutional experience, whatever it is. So I was like, okay, well, let's, let's dive in. I started companies and stuff before. Um, you know, if it's of interest, how hard can it be? And you know, of course, the hindsight is 2020. But, yeah, just basically took the course and dove like dove right in and just was able to implement a lot of stuff that I had learned along my life's journey up to that point into the real estate. So it was about I'm going on nine years as a as an agent. Now wow.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so going back a little bit with regarding your life's journey, when you were saying you were doing the music producing, is that like the beats? Is it were you? Are you an artist or were you working with other artists? It's not a curiosity, because my two cousins that own bankroll got it in LA that do beats and I just thought that was interesting that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Well, my artist is actually in LA as well, um, so he's from Ottawa, he's out in LA with, uh, we, uh, we're aligned with ODA, which is, uh, with Polo G, um, big rapper out of Chicago, um, but yeah, so I was producing, I was making beats, so I was basically composing beats back at like we're talking back in the day, selling them, um, you know, and I I had a recording studio as well that I had opened up, so I was running it as an engineer and then, and then doing the music production as well, um, so I had a rep selling beats kind of across the world for me, um, and yeah, just just grinding and hustling that way.

Speaker 2:

So, uh, that's kind of how it all started. And then, now that the real estate stuff is taken off, I own two custom home building companies, obviously, property management and investment companies as well for real estate. I was able to. You know, I had this artist that was brought to my attention about five years ago and, yeah, we signed a major deal with Columbia and he moved out to LA two, two and a half years ago. So, yeah, it's kind of full circle. It's like I was in it. I got out, always had that missing piece and then I'm right back into it.

Speaker 1:

This is super exciting because this is the first time that we've had a music producer on the podcast. So that's cool. So you're a music producer and custom home builder and you have a team in Canada. What's the makeup of your team look like?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I keep it very small intentionally. I didn't get into the real estate business to manage, so I came into the real estate business because I want to be a producer, so I keep it small. I've got basically two junior agents, two admins and an event coordinator and that's kind of I keep it tight, tight, tight.

Speaker 1:

Perfect, perfect number. Yeah, we found that. That's what we are enjoying too. Scaling it back from the production side of things and having a small production team, I would say it's an easier model to make it for revenue? Yeah, for sure. What type of volume does your team do, or how did it look for you this last year?

Speaker 2:

So it wasn't too bad. It certainly it wasn't certainly wasn't the best year I've had. Um, that's partially on my shoulder, like that's partially on me. Um, in terms of my own production it was. You know, it's still very, very grateful for what, what I was able to accomplish, um, but I did spend a lot of time elsewhere. Um, so what did we do? I think I think I was, we were, or personally, I don't know what the team was last year, but I was like I was in the thirties, like somewhere like 30, 33 to 36 transactions, something around there.

Speaker 1:

Not bad yeah, especially for the type of market we had this last year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was tricky. So I had, and I like I am always opposite of everybody else. When everybody's super slammed, I'm like sitting there looking around like what is going on, cause I'm obviously like doing, doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And then when things slow down and everybody's like, oh man, what are we going to do? Like I can't even sit around for conversations Cause I'm running around like going crazy, like everybody's calling me at that time. So it's around like going crazy, like everybody's calling me at that time. So it's it's kind of a you know a joke. It's like for us, like cause, uh, you know, and for you guys I'm sure as well. But, like you know, if things are slow, like take a vacation right or go somewhere?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly the moment, the moment you do that, like people are calling or something urgent has to go down, right, so it's Murphy's law, so, um, but yeah, so I was somewhere around there, like in the thirties, for um, for, for deals, for ends, and uh, I'll be honest, I actually don't. I don't keep track. I know it's not the best thing, but I'm not a numbers driven. I didn't get into the business to be numbers driven. Um, I have an issue where if I start putting numbers as an importance, I get focused and fixated on them, whereas if I don't, I'm like I'm hustling, I'm relentless and I just keep it moving and kind of just grateful for what I'm doing and then grateful for the next one, and it's just just keep it moving rather than trying to. I don't set sales goals and like that for myself, because I know that I'll get obsessed with that number and I. That's not. That's not what I do this for.

Speaker 1:

Put the energy towards other things that bring you joy, instead of focusing on the numbers. I feel like it's just coming naturally to you getting the business it sounds like, and then I was thinking, like what kind of advice? What's that?

Speaker 2:

kind of enticed. What's that? We all work hard, right, so as long as you're you're not taking your foot off the gas, like whether you have a goal of this or this, you know you're pushing as hard as you possibly can anyway. So the results, the results are going to be the results. Like, I'm not going to force something, I'm not going to put myself in a position where, like, oh, to hit this number, I'm going to have to entice this person to buy this property that I feel maybe might not be the best move for them, just so I can hit a sales goal. It's like, well, that that's, that's, that's ethically. That's not. That's not what I'm doing.

Speaker 2:

I'm I'm trying to give back to the community. I'm trying to build a legacy. I'm trying to help my clients, who are friends and family. That right, they, they come into my circle. They're not, they're not just people that are generating revenue for me based off of production, but they have more of an importance to me than that. They're actually part of my life. I don't blend, I mean I don't separate sorry, like my personal and work and business, like from music and family. Like, you get all of me If you know me, you've got me, true and true.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think that you definitely demonstrated your ability to be successful, for sure, with everything that you've accomplished Custom home builder too.

Speaker 2:

I am. I am a licensed custom home builder here, so that's a separate schooling. It's grueling, it was way more expensive than obviously taking the real estate courses and a lot more intense, for sure. So there's not a ton of, not a ton of people that can actually legally build here, especially like on the smaller end, like the boutique side where I'm building, you know, maybe maybe four homes a year type thing, but yeah, it's, it's just another feather in the cap. And again, another accomplishment that I'm super proud of, and that was with the end game of, like you know, a legacy project down the road where, like, I'm fortunate enough to have some land where I can build my own street and that's gonna be pretty cool for my kid to see, like you know, as I get older, driving by and being like not only did I buy and sell that or buy and sell that or work with this deal, but it's like I built this, I built this, but then drive down the street and it's like, you know, dad, dad did know.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so with the homes you're building then? So then there, you've got the lots, you're building them out. Are you pre-selling them, or how are you structuring that?

Speaker 2:

So great question. I've done both, so I've done a pre-sale. I don't think I'll do that again. Just yeah it, it it was. It was a little bit of a headache in terms of, like, finishing material selections and, um, so it, yeah it it, just with the stuff that the homeowner ended up putting in and the way that the transaction kind of finished. It was fine, everybody was happy, but it wasn't. It wasn't necessarily stuff that I would have. You know, and I know that this isn't necessarily important, but I like to showcase the homes. Obviously I want to build them and and and show them off so that I can generate future business and and what have you. And I found that some of the selections that were picked were really big drop downs, like a really big step down from what I was we were going to include originally. So then when you got the final product, yeah, the, the client was happy, but it was like man, I just built this, like you know, million dollar house, for example, and like yeah it wasn't reflected, it was off brand, off brand.

Speaker 1:

It was off brand.

Speaker 2:

That's a great way to put it, it was frosty it wasn't frosty, no yeah, it definitely was not. No. So, um, so, yeah, no, and I think, just in terms of the um, the way that the warranty like we it's called terry on here so the way that our, our warranty works, is it is just a little easier, especially even with the lawyers, like on closing and stuff, it's much easier um to sell it after you get the occupancy permit okay, that's interesting Okay. On the smaller side, it's easier yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I imagine you get asked this because I have my hands in multiple pots and people say, well, how do you do it all and what would you say to that? Because you've got quite a bit of different revenue streams and avenues going on, and a dad, and you're a dad well, time management and organization are pretty, pretty important.

Speaker 2:

Um, so those are, those are vital. I think the other key is that, um, I was mentioning it before that I don't have that separation, I don't. You know, when we talk about work-life balance, um, that comes very, very easy to me, for a few reasons. One is because I do plan my days out. Like every day is already pre-planned as much as possible, right? So then, whenever fires come in, I have the time available to put them out.

Speaker 2:

Um, I'm also in the right mental state to be able to help, you know, be reactive when I need to, but I really do try to put an emphasis on being proactive.

Speaker 2:

So, you know, if my son's up at seven, well then I'm up an hour, an hour and a half earlier to make sure that my morning routine of knocking out all the essentials of my day on the real estate side that needs to get done, get done. And then the music side is a bit easier because, again, I am working West Coast time, so I'm out in the East Coast. So, you know, even when he goes to bed, like, even if he's going to bed at nine, well, it's only 6 pm in the east coast, so I can still put in another hour or two hours from 9 to 11 or 9 to midnight, if I have to um and do whatever I need to do, and it's not, um, imposing on anybody for a for a bad time, because they're, if anybody's out on the west coast, it's still, you know, dinner time or just after dinner type thing and how old's your son?

Speaker 2:

He's seven, so we are inseparable, we are attached at the hip, we do everything together. I am there for drop-offs, pickups, every day, and I hustle as hard as I can because my goal is like I enjoy spending aside from showings and stuff, of course, but spending the moment moment he gets off school to the moment that he goes to bed, um, every day. So that's that's.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm doing this for you're like a stay-at-home, a stay-at-home dad too.

Speaker 2:

Hell yeah, that's impressive but let's, I'm not gonna get it twisted. My wife is at home, um, and she she's got the biggest job out of all of us. She has to put up with both of us and and take care of us. So yeah, that's, I've got it. I've got it pretty easy, to be honest, really.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think that's why so many of us get into real estate. Well, it's not always as flexible as we would like it to be. There is a high level of flexibility to it. Right when we can, we can go to our kids games and we can we can switch things around so we can pick them up and do all the stuff that that you're saying and that's really what I've always loved about being in real estate for the last, you know, 20 years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you're exactly right, that ability to be flexible and you just have to put the onus and the responsibility on yourself to hold yourself accountable, that you have to, like, in my mind, I have to, I earn that time, like I don't have to, I earn that time, so I earn to have that privilege and that chance to do that. It's not just because you know we're real estate brokers and we're like, oh yeah, we're real estate brokers, we could do whatever we want. It's like, well, we can, but we have to. We have to earn that spot to do that, to make it, to make it work. Otherwise, we're going to end up like the majority of the rest of the numbers that are in and then out before before you can sneeze Right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've just read an article from Inman this morning that less than this was actually in the US. So not Canada, but less than 25% of agents in the US closed a deal last year. So that was a very low number or low percentage.

Speaker 2:

It's pretty scary yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I have to ask an obvious question that you're with eXp Realty, correct? And how long have you been with the brokerage?

Speaker 2:

It has. Whoa has it been? It's been four or five years, four or five years already.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so let's talk about. You said you've been in real estate for almost 10, nine, 10 years, so you were with. Who were you with? Were you with like a independent brokerage prior, I'm assuming?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, so we were a boutique brokerage capital homes and, um, yeah, I, I loved it there, I love the team, I love the group and, uh, it was awesome. I've always kind of been a lone wolf, anyway, so I'm I'm always, you know, doing my own thing, but, um, it was great. You know, there was solid training, really, really good people that I'm very close to still today and it's funny how it happened because I was, you know, a lot of people were trying to recruit me to. You know, jump ship, move over this and that, but I am very loyal. So it was always like, you know, I'll take the coffee and don't mind like networking and connecting with you. Like you know, I'll take the coffee and don't mind like networking and connecting with you. But you know, right off the bat, like I'm not looking to make any moves.

Speaker 2:

And, funny enough, there was, there was an agent, a broker that had been in the game a lot longer than I had, who I, I really respected, especially the hustle, and he was like, you know, like no pressure, but are you open to taking a lunch? And we were doing lunches every couple of months and you know, he was always you know, you know, I knew what he was doing, I knew what the intentions were, but he was very professional about it and, funny enough, it came to a point where he was moving his brokerage and amalgamating, like he was moving it under the eXp umbrella and he actually brokered for Capital, capital homes that broker drives with to move under the EXP umbrella at the same time. And I, I didn't know this. So, uh, we all ended up moving over together. It was a big group, of course. It. It really benefited, uh, benefited him very well because it created a really nice line for him.

Speaker 2:

But, um, uh, but yeah, so then we all started working together and one of my like I said, I'm a lone wolf, so one of my no, I don't want to say demands, but one of my requests to move over to EXP was that all correspondence, you know, from the EXP side really went through my main admin. I didn't want to be you know, I'm not a real big company raw, raw guy and I definitely didn't want to be um, bogged down with communications going back from me to EXP and so forth. I didn't know what to expect because I had never been at a bigger brokerage, right. So they agreed to that, agreed to let me um. At that point I kind of separated from the group. Um, in terms Capital Homes group. I moved and started the Sean Frost Real Estate team at that time and it's been really smooth sailing since. Yeah, I have multi-time icon and yeah, it's just been. I have no complaints. I'm certainly not looking to go anywhere else.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, I'm so glad I went there because you know, we, I don't I'm not sure what if you're, if you have folks in your downline that you focus on revenue share or not, but these two girls, it's our number one, number one primarily goal is to is to build our organization, now nation, which we're we're really committed to.

Speaker 1:

So it's good to hear that. You know we assumed you were so happy with the EXP because you're still here and you know you touched on being an icon. I mean, tell our listeners you know what it's meant to because we talk about it and it sounds so great. But really, truly, how has it impacted your life?

Speaker 2:

To be a real estate broker.

Speaker 1:

No, an icon agent. The icon agent, and being with oh, an icon agent. Did I stump you?

Speaker 2:

No, it's just, the answer is probably not the one that we're hoping for but, honestly, it just adds fuel to the fire. So, in terms of you know, that award actually doing anything on its own? Truthfully, no, but it is very nice to get recognized and it is a very, very good motivator and indicator to this day, like I have I'm looking at it above the computer right now, like I've got, you know, a few, a few of them sitting up there and, yeah, when the day seems long or when things aren't going my way, um, that's where the importance. You know a few, a few of them sitting up there and, yeah, when the day seems long or when things aren't going my way, um, that's where the importance. You know, it's a personal thing, right? So that's where it becomes important to me, cause I can, you know, if I'm looking up to the sky, well, if that's what I'm looking at, then it's it again.

Speaker 2:

It was. It's a very good achievement and it helps. It just helps add fuel to the fire to motivate me to obviously do something bigger and better, and that's always what I'm striving for. I'm not, I'm very hesitant on getting complacent. I never want to, um, get too comfortable and let things pass me by, cause I'm not interested in chasing to catch up. I'm interested on running as fast as I can to stay at.

Speaker 1:

He's the lone wolf, michelle, so he doesn't care about no icon award, it's just. It's just snow Snowing awards in his office, right and snow and like stock awards and giving back to other agents.

Speaker 2:

And yeah so so it helped motivate the one that the award that sticks out to me the most the most recent one that I the the biggest, most recent one that I received was um. It was across canada and, again, if I wasn't doing the production and having the support through exp that I'm getting, I might not have reached this. But I was able to win an award across Canada for giving back to the community, powered through soccer, and I did that with the professional soccer team. But I wouldn't have had all the resources at my disposal if I hadn't have been so successful in real estate, because it's not free to do all this.

Speaker 1:

Right Now. Did you play? Did you grow up playing soccer?

Speaker 2:

I did. I play soccer, I still play. So I play soccer and I play hockey. Um, I played um really serious soccer, um, as a kid, and then quit, uh, when I probably shouldn't have, and then came back and started playing serious and then blew out my knees. So, um, now I'm just playing co-ed for fun, but uh, yeah, still still once a week that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

My uh, my cousin just retired professional soccer player megan rapinoe and I was. That's my cousin.

Speaker 2:

She always drops it like subtle you know, oh yeah, like no, I'm just gonna name drop the edm. You may or may not know her biggest professional female football player of all time.

Speaker 1:

I know and I did not get the same athletic genes. I mean I play sports, but I definitely did not. I don't have any anything under my belt from the Olympics or FIFA or any of any of that stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fair enough, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1:

So, before we wrap up, you mentioned, you know, giving accolades. I don't want to make this be like an EXP, you know, dump. However, you touched on how the organization allowed you to, like, really grow and then, you know, do some more things specific to giving back. But it's so true because there's an EXP agent in Canada, evan I can't remember his last name. Does that ring any bells? Yeah, he's part of Wolfpack. I met him through another eXp agent, gosh. I don't know how many months ago, but through that connection I asked him who he uses for editing on his YouTube channel and we're using that editor for this podcast. It's from Canada.

Speaker 2:

It's from Canada.

Speaker 1:

Like never what. None of that would have ever happened for us If we didn't have this amazing connection with this global organization. It's like insane to think about. Well, I just want to say it is very cool.

Speaker 2:

It is very cool. I like the connectivity. And, again, it's kind of the best of both worlds in my situation because, like, I do have the support, there are a lot of things and benefits that are offered, but then I'm really granted that independence to go and do my own thing. So, yeah, I just I can't complain. I actually went down.

Speaker 2:

I had a meeting with Ryan Serhant a couple of years ago. Yeah, he's my mentor on the real estate side and he, you know, he was chatting to me about a few things and I was like, no, I'm staying in Canada, I'm good, I'm good where I'm at. And uh, that's that's kind of the reason why the podcast um guests his parents has started. Cause he said, um, get into, you know, start sharing your story and your hustle and your drive, get out there and start doing some public speaking. And I'm like, no, I'm not, I'm not going to do that. And he's like, okay, start a podcast. I'm like that either. And he's like, okay, start getting yourself on podcasts, get your team getting you on podcast spots, share your story, give some insight and build your connections. And I'm like that I can do.

Speaker 1:

And here we are, and here we are.

Speaker 2:

We are.

Speaker 1:

Well, I just have to say I think it's funny.

Speaker 2:

He's like do you, since you're in Canada. Do you know Evan in Canada, Evan Young I thought it might be like ring John.

Speaker 1:

It's like Randy Burr.

Speaker 2:

Or Nicole, our editor. Do you know what I'm?

Speaker 1:

saying Nicole and Evan, you don't know them.

Speaker 2:

Evan Young.

Speaker 1:

I looked up his last name. Does that jog any memory?

Speaker 2:

Evan Young. No, do you know, like maybe, what side of the country he lives on?

Speaker 1:

Let me see.

Speaker 2:

St.

Speaker 1:

John New Brunswick. Okay so.

Speaker 2:

East.

Speaker 1:

Coast. No, I've never been out to the East Coast actually Okay, well, now we know, Now we know.

Speaker 2:

But if I am in St John when I do a maritime trip, I will look out for them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go. All roads lead back to EXP in some way or another, that's it.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, thank you so much for joining us today. It's been so great to meet you. What an impressive career you've had so far. I got to check out some more about this artist that you've got. We're into the beats for sure we are. We like rap.

Speaker 2:

Nice, so his name's Two Time, so it's T-W-o-t-i-i-m-e, um, so yeah, at two time. And then uh, and then I have another artist that I'm working with too. He's uh, he's like a more trap, edm, but still, but raps, um, his name is justin diamond um and I manage a wrestler as well, so you can look out for josh bishop too.

Speaker 1:

He's out of cleveland wow, way to drop that at the very end yeah, we're.

Speaker 2:

Uh, my son is obsessed with wrestling, so I'm a big wrestling guy too. And uh, yeah, I met this dude um a few years ago and he's on the come up um just rehabbing an injury. But uh, yeah, he's, he'll be making his pro debut, uh, very, very shortly, and yeah, he's, he's got it. So, yeah, lots of lots of fun things on the horizon congrats again yeah, thanks for having me on, guys.

Speaker 1:

Congrats to you guys too thank you, yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Before we sign off, tell our listeners um where they, can you know, start connecting with you yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

So the easiest spot is is instagram. Um, you know, emails and all that stuff are great, but instagram is definitely the the platform that I'm the most engaged in, the most active on, so you'll you'll have like oh, sorry I'm, I was gonna make a joke.

Speaker 1:

You only have, like you know, 200 followers. Yeah, it's like 200 000 yeah, sorry, no, that's okay.

Speaker 2:

I was like, oh my God, did my account get hacked? It's like no, I had to work hard.

Speaker 1:

You see his face out there, you're all 200.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, no. So that's. That's definitely the platform that I use. It really is the only social media platform that I actually really, actually, really really give time to. I know that's not the smartest thing, it's just that's just the way it is.

Speaker 1:

So, um at, I am Sean Frost and, uh, yeah, don't hesitate to reach out, awesome. And then, of course, you can find us on Instagram all things twists and ask the general, and then go on our YouTube channel for the now podcast for real where you can comment. Make sure you subscribe. Uh, hit this guy up. We'll be looking for any comments that we can you know, or questions or anything we can answer. So, thanks everybody for tuning in. Sean. Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 2:

And that's a wrap. Thanks, Mr Frost.

Speaker 1:

Thank you you.